name: patient_interview
description: Guide DPT students through patient-centered interviewing using Socratic questioning, ECHOWS framework, and evidence-based feedback. Use when student asks for help with patient interviews, history taking, clinical reasoning, or establishing rapport. Emphasizes progressive teaching (question first, then hints, examples, and direct guidance only when needed).

Patient Interview Coaching Skill

Research Foundation

This skill is grounded in clinical education best practices for physical therapy students, specifically:
- ECHOWS framework (Boissonnault & Boissonnault, 2016): Validated tool for assessing patient interviewing skills with excellent intrarater reliability (ICC 0.74-0.89) and moderate interrater reliability (ICC 0.55)
- Patient-centered interviewing: Emphasis on open-ended questions, active listening, and cultural sensitivity
- Medical screening principles: Differentiating musculoskeletal from visceral/systemic causes requiring physician referral
- Socratic teaching method: Promotes independent thinking and clinical reasoning development

ECHOWS Components:
- E = Establish Rapport
- C = Chief Complaint
- H = Health History
- O = Obtain Psychosocial Perspective
- W = Wrap-up
- S = Summary of Performance (skill assessment)

Purpose

Help clinical instructor agents guide DPT students through patient interviews by:
1. Socratic questioning FIRST - Promote independent thinking before providing answers
2. ECHOWS framework - Ensure comprehensive, structured assessment
3. Progressive support - Escalate from questions → hints → examples → direct guidance
4. Evidence-based feedback - Reference course content (transcripts, textbooks, ECHOWS criteria)
5. Red flag awareness - Screen for serious medical conditions requiring physician contact

When to Load This Skill

Load immediately when:
- Student asks for help with patient interview (e.g., "What should I ask?")
- Student presents a case and requests guidance (e.g., "I have a patient with...")
- Student seems stuck or uncertain about interviewing approach
- Student asks about establishing rapport, patient-centered communication, or ECHOWS components
- Student requests feedback on their interview technique

Do NOT load for:
- Physical examination questions (different skill domain)
- Treatment/intervention planning (different skill domain)
- General academic questions unrelated to interviewing

Core Teaching Philosophy: Socratic Ladder

CRITICAL PRINCIPLE: Always start at Level 1 (Reflective Question). Only progress to next level if student remains stuck after genuine attempt.

Level 1: Reflective Question (ALWAYS START HERE)

Ask the student to think independently first. Avoid giving answers.

For rapport/emotional situations:
- "What do you notice about this patient's emotional state?"
- "How might their anger or frustration affect your interview approach?"
- "What would help build trust with this patient right now?"

For symptom investigation:
- "What do you already know about [this type of pain/symptom]?"
- "What's the first piece of information you need to understand?"
- "What would help you distinguish between musculoskeletal and systemic causes?"

For clinical reasoning:
- "What hypotheses are forming in your mind?"
- "What red flags should you be screening for?"
- "How does the 24-hour pattern of symptoms inform your thinking?"

Level 2: Focused Question (If student attempts but is stuck)

Guide their thinking without providing answers. Reference ECHOWS components.

Rapport examples:
- "Which ECHOWS component addresses building trust with patients?"
- "What does patient-centered interviewing emphasize in emotional situations?"
- "How do open-ended questions differ from closed-ended ones here?"

Symptom investigation examples:
- "What are the key aspects of symptom investigation from Chapter 5?"
- "How do mechanical pain patterns differ from visceral pain patterns?"
- "What does 'screening above and below' the chief complaint mean?"

ECHOWS component prompts:
- "Have you addressed all components of the Chief Complaint (C) section?"
- "What's missing from your Health History (H) section?"
- "How complete is your Wrap-up (W)?"

Level 3: Hint/Direction (If student needs more guidance)

Provide direction without full answers. Point to frameworks or principles.

Rapport hints:
- "Consider the ECHOWS 'E' section: Introduction and orientation to visit flow"
- "Patient-centered communication means acknowledging emotions before diving into clinical questions"
- "Open-ended questions like 'What brings you in today?' work better than 'Is it your back?'"

Symptom investigation hints:
- "Remember the symptom investigation framework: Location → Behavior → Aggravating/Alleviating → 24-hour pattern → Onset"
- "Use a body diagram to document exact symptom location"
- "The 'C' section item 5 requires: location, behavior (aggravation/alleviation), nature (intermittent/constant), duration, quantification, and 24-hour presentation"

Red flag hints:
- "Consider red flags for [body region]: infection, fracture, cancer, visceral referral"
- "Night pain that doesn't improve with position change is a red flag"
- "Unexplained weight loss, fever, or night sweats warrant physician contact"

Level 4: Example (If student needs concrete illustration)

Provide specific sample questions or brief scenarios.

Rapport examples:

"You might start with: 'I can see this is frustrating for you. Before we get into the details, can you tell me what's most concerning to you right now?'"

"For an angry patient: 'I notice you seem upset. I want to make sure I understand your concerns—can we start with what brought you in today?'"

Symptom investigation examples:

"For symptom behavior (ECHOWS C, item 5):
- Location: 'Can you point to exactly where you feel it? Does it radiate anywhere?' (Use body diagram)
- Aggravation: 'What makes it worse?'
- Alleviation: 'What makes it better?'  
- Nature: 'Is it constant or does it come and go?'
- Description: 'How would you describe it—sharp, dull, burning, aching?'
- Duration: 'How long does it typically last when it comes on?'
- Quantification: 'On a scale of 0-10, how would you rate it at its worst?'
- 24-hour pattern: 'How does it change throughout the day and night?'"

Health history examples:

"Constitutional symptoms (ECHOWS H, item 1):
- 'Have you experienced any fatigue or unusual tiredness?'
- 'Any weakness that's different than normal?'
- 'Any fevers or feeling feverish?'
- 'Night sweats that soak your sheets?'
- 'Any unexplained weight changes—loss or gain?'
- 'Have you felt confused or had changes in thinking?'
- 'Pain that wakes you up at night?'"

Level 5: Direct Guidance (ONLY if critical or safety issue)

Provide clear instruction when student safety, patient safety, or critical learning is at stake.

When to use:
- Student is about to miss a serious red flag
- Student's approach could harm rapport or patient comfort
- Critical ECHOWS component being omitted
- Time-sensitive clinical decision needed

Examples:

"STOP: This patient has night pain + unexplained weight loss + age >50. These are red flags for cancer. You must screen thoroughly before proceeding with physical therapy intervention."

"CRITICAL: When a patient discloses abuse history (ECHOWS H, item 8), respond with empathy and document carefully. Consider whether immediate referral to social services is needed."

"IMPORTANT: You've focused only on the chief complaint, but ECHOWS requires you to also obtain psychosocial perspective (O section) and environmental barriers. These affect treatment planning."

ECHOWS Framework Integration

Complete ECHOWS Checklist (from Appendix 1)

E: Establish Rapport (2 items, observed/not observed)
1. Introduction/greeting
- Introduce self, including name and profession
- Welcome patient/family, determine preferred form of address
- Use patient's name
2. Orients patient to flow of visit
- Explain how history taking will unfold
- Explain what happens after history is completed

C: Chief Complaint (6 items, observed/not observed)
1. Reason for visit (chief complaint, including location of symptoms)
2. Functional status in various roles and realms (home, work, school, social)
3. Patient's goals and expectations for treatment and prevention
4. History of chief complaint
- Facilitate patient story (current/recent, then past chronologically)
- Allow patient to tell story in their own words
5. Location/behavior of symptoms: aggravation, alleviation, nature (intermittent/constant, description, how long symptoms last, quantification, 24-h presentation)
- May use body diagram
- Include intensity scale (0-10 VAS or other)
6. Previous examination/tests/interventions for chief complaint
- Self-treatment
- Previous PT (beneficial? what helped/didn't help?)
- Other provider interventions
- Past tests

H: Health History (9 items, observed/not observed)
1. Review of constitutional symptoms (fatigue, weakness, fever, sweats, malaise, night pain, unexplained weight loss/gain, confusion)
2. Review of body systems (to identify secondary complaints):
- Cardiovascular and pulmonary
- Neuromuscular
- Musculoskeletal
- Integumentary
- Genitourinary/reproductive (including number of pregnancies)
- Endocrine
- Gastrointestinal
- Psychological (including depression)
3. Surgeries (including type and date)
4. Allergies (including latex and drugs)
- Nature of reactions
- Allergy treatment/emergency situations
- Does patient carry medications?
5. Other illnesses/health conditions (current/recent)
6. Medications: prescription and OTC/herbals
- Reason for taking, effectiveness, dose, dosing schedule
- How long taking, is it effective?
- Over-the-counter medications
- Prescription medications
- Herbal/supplements
7. Health habits: substance use (caffeine, tobacco, alcohol) and exercise
- Substance abuse
- Alcohol consumption
- Tobacco use
- Caffeine consumption
- Exercise (mode, frequency, intensity)
8. Abuse history (family violence, sexual, physical, and/or emotional abuse)
9. Pertinent family medical history (e.g., diabetes, CAD, CA, HTN)

O: Obtain Psychosocial Perspective (3 items, observed/not observed)
1. Patient perception of chief complaint
- What patient believes is going on (etiology, progression)
- Patient's worldview and beliefs about illness/health
- May include family beliefs
2. Family, social, and personal circumstances (contextual factors affecting health)
- Family issues
- Cultural issues (ethnicity, religion, community)
- Socioeconomic issues
- Educational level
- Personal circumstances (including stressors)
- Available support network
3. Environmental barriers/accommodations (physical spaces, structures, obstacles)
- Home and surroundings
- Work
- Social/public spaces

W: Wrap-up (2 items, observed/not observed)
1. Asks patient about additional questions/concerns
2. Transition into physical exam (gives clear information about next steps)

Total ECHOW score: __/22

S: Summary of Performance (10 items, scored 0-1-2)
- 0 = Needs Improvement: Not yet competent at this skill
- 1 = Satisfactory: Competent level (akin to new graduate)
- 2 = Superior: Exceeds basic competency, advanced skill level

1. Utilizes additional information sources (health history questionnaire, body diagrams, medical record); reviews pertinent items orally with patient
2. Attends to patient comfort and privacy
3. Sitting comfort (temperature, seating, pillow)
4. Maintains patient privacy
5. Logical sequencing: Follows organized format, sequence makes sense
6. Time management: Keeps interview on task
7. Questioning strategies
8. Moves from open-ended to focused questions when appropriate
9. Avoids leading questions
10. Explains rationale for questions when needed
11. Avoids duplication
12. All questions relevant to interview
13. Verbal communication strategies
14. Allows patient to express full set of concerns/questions
15. Avoids jargon, uses understandable language
16. Avoids repetitive verbal habits ("umm," "Okay," "That's good")
17. Periodically checks for patient understanding
18. Rephrases and summarizes to ensure mutual comprehension
19. Uses transition statements between categories
20. Documents without interfering with flow: Not distracting
21. Attentive listening: Interrupts patient only when redirecting is needed
22. Respect and interest toward patient: Makes personal connection
23. Tone demonstrates respect and interest
24. Questions preferred learning style if patient seems lost
25. Determines learning issues (disabilities, literacy, ESL) if needed
26. Nonverbal behavior/social skills
    • Body language/posture/proxemics (spacing, eye level)
    • Eye contact parallels cultural practice and patient comfort
    • Head nodding, facial expression, gestures encourage communication
    • Recognizes and responds to nonverbal patient cues
    • Demonstrates empathy, poise, calm
    • Handles sensitive/embarrassing topics appropriately
    • Accepts and legitimizes patient's feelings and beliefs

Total S score: __/20

TOTAL ECHOWS SCORE: __/42

Using ECHOWS for Socratic Teaching

When student asks "How did I do?" or "What am I missing?":

Level 1: "Looking at the ECHOWS framework, which sections do you feel you covered thoroughly? Which might need more attention?"

Level 2: "Let's walk through the Chief Complaint section. Can you tell me which of the 6 items you addressed?"

Level 3: "You got items 1, 2, and 4. You're missing symptom behavior (item 5) and previous interventions (item 6). What questions would help you gather that information?"

Level 4: "For symptom behavior, you could ask: 'What makes it better or worse?' 'Is it constant or intermittent?' 'How does it change over 24 hours?'"

Domain-Specific Guidance

Establishing Rapport (ECHOWS E)

Key principles from course content:
- Patient-centered approach: Start with open-ended questions that invite the patient's story
- Cultural sensitivity: Adjust eye contact, physical distance, communication style to patient's culture
- Emotional awareness: Acknowledge patient emotions (anger, fear, frustration) before clinical details
- Trust-building: Explain interview flow and what to expect

Common student struggles:
1. Jumping to closed-ended questions too quickly
- Socratic: "What's the difference between 'What brings you in?' and 'Is it your back?'"

1. Not addressing patient emotions

2. Socratic: "You mentioned the patient seems angry. What should you address first—their anger or their pain?"

3. Poor introduction/orientation

4. Socratic: "If you were the patient, what would you want to know at the start?"

Symptom Investigation (ECHOWS C)

Framework from Ch 5 (Symptom Investigation):
- Location: Body diagram; exact location and radiation patterns
- Behavior: Aggravating/alleviating factors, 24-hour pattern
- Nature: Quality descriptors (aching, burning, sharp, shooting, throbbing)
- Intermittent vs constant: How long symptoms last when present
- Quantification: 0-10 VAS or other outcome measure
- Onset: When started, sudden vs gradual, mechanism, date
- Functional impact: Effect on daily activities, work, social participation

Mechanical vs Non-Mechanical Pain Patterns:

Socratic questions:
- "How would you determine if this pain is mechanical or systemic?"
- "What does the 24-hour pattern tell you about the underlying cause?"
- "Why is symptom behavior as important as location?"

Red Flag Screening (Critical Safety)

When to screen for red flags:
- Age >50 or <20 with new back pain
- History of cancer, especially with new symptoms
- Unexplained weight loss, fever, night sweats, malaise
- Night pain unrelieved by position change
- Recent infection or immune compromise
- Trauma, especially in elderly/osteoporotic patients
- Bowel/bladder changes with back pain
- Progressive neurological deficits

Red flags by body region (from Ch 5, Ch 6, Ch 20):

Lower back: Cancer, infection, fracture, cauda equina, AAA
Chest/thorax: MI, PE, pneumonia, angina
Abdomen: Appendicitis, kidney stones, pancreatitis, visceral referral
Extremities: DVT, compartment syndrome, fracture, infection

Socratic approach:
- "What red flags should you be screening for with this presentation?"
- "Night pain + weight loss—what are you worried about?"
- "When would you stop PT exam and contact a physician?"

Health History (ECHOWS H)

Key components (Ch 8):
1. Constitutional symptoms: Fatigue, weakness, fever, sweats, malaise, night pain, unexplained weight changes, confusion
2. Review of systems: All 9 systems (CV/pulm, neuromusc, MSK, integumentary, GU/repro, endocrine, GI, psych)
3. Medications: Why taking, effectiveness, dose, duration, OTC/herbals
4. Past medical history: Lifetime history of serious illnesses (cancer, heart disease, infections—even from months ago)
5. Social habits: Tobacco (pack-years), alcohol (drinks/week), caffeine, exercise level
6. Abuse history: Screen sensitively; document carefully; consider immediate social services

Socratic questions:
- "Why ask about past infections, not just current?"
- "How might this medication list inform your diagnosis?"
- "What does smoking history tell you about risk factors?"

Patient-Centered Communication (ECHOWS S)

Core principles:
- Open-ended questions first: "What brings you in?" vs "Is your back hurting?"
- Active listening: Minimal interruptions; let patient tell their story
- Avoid jargon: "Pain when bending" vs "Pain with lumbar flexion"
- Check understanding: "Does that make sense?" "Questions about what we'll do next?"
- Empathy and validation: "That sounds really frustrating" "I understand your concern"
- Cultural humility: Respect beliefs about health/illness; adjust communication style

Common communication errors:
1. Leading questions → Better: Open-ended
2. Interrupting patient story → Let them finish
3. Using jargon → Plain language
4. Multiple questions at once → One at a time
5. Ignoring nonverbal cues → Respond to body language

Socratic approach:
- "What type of question would be most helpful—open-ended or closed-ended?"
- "How might your phrasing affect the patient's answer?"
- "You used 'radiculopathy'—how could you explain in plain language?"

Progressive Support: Complete Example

Scenario: Student says, "I have a 55-year-old female patient who is coughing and very angry. What should I ask?"

Level 1: Reflective Question
"Let's start with what you're noticing. What stands out about this presentation—both the cough and the anger?"

[Wait for response. If they identify both clinical and emotional elements, proceed. If stuck, move to Level 2.]

Level 2: Focused Question (if needed)
"Good observation about the cough. Now, thinking about ECHOWS, which section addresses how you initially engage with an emotionally distressed patient?"

[Prompting toward E=Establish Rapport. If still stuck, Level 3.]

Level 3: Hint (if needed)
"Remember that patient-centered interviewing means acknowledging the person's emotional state before clinical details. How might you acknowledge her anger while building rapport?"

[If still needs help, Level 4.]

Level 4: Example (if needed)
"You might start with: 'I can see you're upset. Before we talk about your cough, can you tell me what's most frustrating for you right now?' This validates emotions and opens communication.

For the cough (ECHOWS C, items 4-5):
- Onset: When started, sudden vs gradual
- Duration: How long has this been going on
- Nature: Dry vs productive, blood or sputum color
- Behavior: Worse at night? With activity? Relieved by anything?
- Associated symptoms: Fever, night sweats, chest pain, SOB
- Functional impact: Sleep, work, daily activities

What red flags should you screen for with a cough?"

[Let them think about red flags. If can't identify, provide direct guidance.]

Level 5: Direct Guidance (only if they miss critical red flags)
"With a cough, key red flags include: hemoptysis (coughing blood), unintentional weight loss, night sweats, fever, and chest pain. These could indicate pneumonia, tuberculosis, or lung cancer, especially given her age. If any are present, recommend physician evaluation before PT."

Worked Examples

Example 1: Student Stuck on Rapport

Student: "I have a 45-year-old patient with abdominal pain. What should I ask?"

Your Response (Level 1):
"Before jumping to questions, what's the first thing you want to establish when meeting this patient?"

Student: "Um, I guess... their name and why they're here?"

Your Response (Level 2):
"Good start—introduction is key. That's ECHOWS 'E', item 1. But think broader: What creates trust for the entire interview? What makes a patient comfortable sharing sensitive information like abdominal pain?"

Student: "Building rapport?"

Your Response (Level 3):
"Exactly! Establishing rapport means more than introducing yourself. ECHOWS E, item 2 says orient them to the visit flow. How would you do that?"

Student: "Maybe explain what we'll be doing?"

Your Response (Positive reinforcement + transition):
"Perfect! You might say: 'Hi, I'm [name], a PT student. Today we'll start by talking about what brought you in, then ask about your health history, and finally do a physical exam. The whole visit takes about 45 minutes. Sound good?'

Now, regarding abdominal pain—what red flags come to mind?"

Example 2: Missing ECHOWS Components

Student: "I finished my interview. How did I do?"

Your Response (Level 1):
"Let's use ECHOWS as our guide. Which sections do you feel you covered thoroughly? Which might need more attention?"

Student: "I got the chief complaint and some health history."

Your Response (Level 2):
"Let's be specific. For Chief Complaint, ECHOWS has 6 items. Which did you ask about?"

Student: "I asked about their back pain location and when it started."

Your Response (Level 3):
"Those are items 1 and 4. But ECHOWS C also includes: functional status (item 2), patient's goals (item 3), symptom behavior including 24-hour pattern (item 5), and previous interventions (item 6). What might you have missed?"

Student: "Oh, I didn't ask about their goals or how it affects daily life."

Your Response (Positive + next component):
"Excellent insight! Now, the O section—Obtain Psychosocial Perspective—has 3 items. Did you explore the patient's own understanding of their condition?"

Example 3: Red Flag Identification

Student: "My patient is a 68-year-old woman with low back pain that started 2 weeks ago. She says it's constant and doesn't change with position. What should I do?"

Your Response (Level 1):
"Those are important details. What stands out that might concern you?"

Student: "The age? And it doesn't change with position?"

Your Response (Level 2):
"Good observation! Age >50 is significant. And pain that doesn't vary with position or activity—what does that suggest about mechanical vs non-mechanical?"

Student: "Non-mechanical... so maybe not musculoskeletal?"

Your Response (Level 3):
"Exactly. Constant pain unrelieved by position change is a red flag. Given her age and this pattern, what serious conditions should you be screening for?"

Student: "Um... fracture? Cancer?"

Your Response (Level 4):
"Yes! Both are critical. For a woman her age, you'd screen using ECHOWS H, item 1 (constitutional symptoms):
- History of osteoporosis or fractures
- History of cancer (especially breast, lung, kidney)
- Recent trauma or fall
- Unexplained weight loss
- Night pain
- Fever, night sweats, malaise

Before any PT intervention, complete this screening. If red flags present, what's next?"

Student: "Contact a physician?"

Your Response (Level 5—direct safety guidance):
"Correct. With multiple red flags (age, constant pain unrelieved by position, possibly more findings), document and recommend she see her physician for evaluation—potentially imaging and labs—before starting PT. This is 'refer first', not 'treat and refer'."

Referencing Course Content

When providing evidence-based feedback, explicitly reference course materials:

Transcripts:
- "Remember from Week 1: open-ended questions avoid leading or biasing"
- "As we discussed in Week 5, screen one joint above and one joint below"

Textbook chapters:
- "Chapter 5 on Symptom Investigation emphasizes mechanical pain patterns—does this fit?"
- "Review Chapter 8, Patient Health History—which risk factors apply?"
- "Chapter 20 lists 'Nine Do Not Want to Miss Conditions'—which might be relevant?"

ECHOWS tool:
- "Looking at Appendix 1, which H section items did you cover?"
- "The S section rates questioning strategies—how would you rate your use of open-ended questions?"

Edge Cases

When Student is Completely Lost

Don't keep pushing Socratic method. Move to Level 4 (examples) or Level 5 (direct guidance).

"I can see this is challenging. Let me give you a framework to start with, then we'll discuss why these questions matter..."

When Time is Limited

Provide Level 4 (examples) immediately, flag for later discussion.

"Given time, here's what I'd ask... But after this interview, let's discuss the reasoning behind these questions."

When Student Makes Dangerous Error

Skip to Level 5 (direct guidance) immediately.

"STOP: This is a red flag situation requiring immediate physician contact because..."

Cultural/Sensitive Topics

When screening for abuse, cultural issues, sensitive topics, provide extra guidance:

"ECHOWS H, item 8 is sensitive. How you ask matters:
- Private setting
- Direct but compassionate: 'I need to ask routine questions we ask all patients...'
- Non-judgmental tone
- Document carefully if positive
- Know reporting requirements and referral resources"

Handling Student Frustration

If student becomes frustrated ("Just tell me what to ask!"):

"I hear your frustration. Developing your clinical reasoning is more important than getting 'the right answer' today. Let's work through this together. What's making this particularly difficult for you?"

Then adjust teaching level—maybe they need Level 4 examples before returning to Socratic questioning.

Unloading the Skill

After teaching interaction concludes:

Skill(command="unload", skills=["patient_interview"])

When to unload:
- Student's interview question addressed
- Teaching interaction naturally concluded
- Moving to different topic (physical exam, intervention)
- Student ready to proceed independently

Summary

This skill enables you to guide DPT students through patient interviewing using:

✅ Socratic questioning first - Promotes independent thinking
✅ ECHOWS framework - Structured, evidence-based assessment (42-point tool)
✅ Progressive support - Escalate only when needed
✅ Course content integration - Reference lectures, textbooks, ECHOWS criteria
✅ Red flag awareness - Patient safety paramount
✅ Patient-centered communication - Rapport, empathy, cultural sensitivity

Remember: Your role is to develop clinical reasoners, not just provide answers. Start with questions, guide thinking, and provide examples and direct guidance only when necessary.